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August 21, 2013 – 2:41PM

The Australian market is higher, as gains in banks outweight losses in miners, ahead of the Fed minutes.























3:13pm: For all the efforts to shore up electronic markets in the aftermath of one of America’s biggest trading catastrophes, yesterday’s options malfunction by Goldman Sachs shows the dangers haven’t gone away.

A programming error caused the firm to send unintentional stock options orders in the first minutes of trading, pushing prices on dozens of contracts to a dollar each, according to a person briefed on the matter yesterday and data compiled by Bloomberg.

Any losses for Goldman Sachs won’t be known until exchanges determine which contracts should be cancelled, said the person.

‘‘It can happen to anybody, no firm is immune,’’ says Matt McCormick, a money manager at Cincinnati-based Bahl & Gaynor. ‘‘Because it’s Goldman Sachs, the error could be pretty large.’’












3:11pm: And while we’re looking at troubled emerging market currencies: India’s rupee has declined 0.2 per cent to 63.3750 per US dollar in the spot market, according to prices from local banks compiled by Bloomberg. It plunged to an all-time low of 64.12 yesterday.

Volatility in the rupee is at a three-year high as the central bank’s steps to support growth countered concern the US will pare stimulus as early as next month.

The Reserve Bank of India will start buying government debt to pump funds into markets and consider reducing weekly sales of cash-management bills to rein in a surge in bond yields that threatened the economy, according to a statement yesterday.

The RBI’s ‘‘steps will trigger knee-jerk positivity but there is little by way of other domestic catalysts to effectively turn the mood,’’ Radhika Rao, an economist at DBS Bank in Mumbai, wrote in a research report today. ‘‘The only watch factor on the horizon is external, that is the direction of the U.S. Fed QE tapering exercise.’’












2:59pm: And while we’re looking at troubled emerging market currencies: the Indian rupee has declined 0.2 per cent to 63.3750 per dollar in the spot market, according to prices from local banks compiled by Bloomberg. It plunged to an all-time low of 64.12 yesterday.

The Reserve Bank of India will start buying government debt to pump funds into markets and consider reducing weekly sales of cash-management bills to rein in a surge in bond yields that threatened the economy, according to a statement yesterday.

The RBI’s ‘‘steps will trigger knee-jerk positivity but there is little by way of other domestic catalysts to effectively turn the mood,’’ Radhika Rao, an economist at DBS Bank in Mumbai, wrote in a research report today. ‘‘The only watch factor on the horizon is external, that is the direction of the US Fed QE tapering exercise.’’













2:55pm: Malaysia’s ringgit is back on the way down, erasing an earlier gain, before a report that may provide clues as to the timing of a reduction in US monetary stimulus.

The ringgit dropped 0.2 per cent to 3.2943 per US dollar. It climbed as much as 0.2 per cent earlier and reached 3.302 yesterday, the weakest level since June 2010.

The Federal Reserve will release minutes of its July policy meeting today, after reports this month showed jobless claims fell and housing starts climbed in the world’s largest economy.

The ringgit, which has dropped 7.2 per cent against the US dollar this year, has weakened too much for an economy set to perform better in the coming months, Abdul Wahid Omar, minister in the Prime Minister’s Department, said yesterday.

‘‘The market is so uncertain on whether tapering is going to start in September, as most economists think,’’ says Wong Chee Seng, a currency strategist in Kuala Lumpur at Ambank Group. ‘‘Until you have this settled, it’s still a dollar-buying environment.’’













2:32pm: While other commodity prices have come under pressure, iron ore is holding near five-month highs at just below $US140 a tonne, supported by brisk steel production in top market China as mills brace for the peak consumption season.

China’s daily crude steel output averaged 2.14 million tonnes in the first 10 days of August, up almost 3 per cent from the previous 10-day period, according to industry group China Iron and Steel Association.

That should support demand for iron ore as Chinese mills ensure they have enough of the raw material to keep pace with steel demand anticipated to strengthen during the seasonally brisk September and October period when most construction activity resumes due to better weather.

Indications of a stabilising Chinese economy and Beijing’s commitment to boost investment in urban infrastructure and railways are also pushing steelmakers to keep output high.

“Most people had expected China’s economy to continue to soften and that did not happen. Nor did it grow really fast, but it’s not growing at the exceptionally low rate that people were expecting,” says Joel Crane, vice-president of research at Morgan Stanley.

The issue here is a demand surprise not a supply surprise. If anyone is surprised why the iron ore price is high, it’s not because they got supply wrong, it’s because they got demand wrong.”













2:12pm: The dollar remains under pressure, trading at 90.38 US cents after hitting the day’s low of 90.18 US cents around midday.

The currency is again being sold by investors as a hedge against weakness in Asian markets more broadly.

“A big fall in Indonesia’s rupiah and significant volatility in Asian currencies are keeping the Aussie off,” says Greg Gibbs, a strategist at Royal Bank of Scotland in Singapore, who sees the Aussie testing recent lows of 88.48 US cents.

Part of the move was caused by a spike in the euro across the board on talk European investors are repatriating funds from emerging markets.

 













1:55pm: And while we’re looking at Kiwi companies, it’s worth mentioning that New Zealand’s biggest listed company posted earnings today.

Fletcher Building’s annual net profit after tax for the year ending June 30 jumped 76 per cent to $NZ326 million ($286 million), from $NZ185 million last year.

But last year’s earnings included impairment charges of $NZ132 million, which once stripped out left the firm with an operating profit of $NZ317 million, down from $NZ359 million in 2011.

A strong performance in the New Zealand market was dulled by weak conditions in the Australian market, Fletcher chief executive Mark Adamson said. The operating earnings increase was driven by rising levels of new house building activity and strong momentum with rebuild and repairs following the Christchurch earthquake.

This helped lift Fletcher’s Australian listed shares, which are up 5.8 per cent today.













1:45pm: Shares in Trade Me have dropped to a two-month low after New Zealand’s largest online auction site said earnings growth would slow in the coming year as it invests more in its business.

Trade Me shares fell 4.2 per cent to $NZ4.50, making the stock the worst performer on New Zealand’s benchmark index.

‘‘There is going to be a significant increase in the cost base and capital expenditure over the next year,’’ said Shane Solly of Mint Asset Management. ‘‘Trade Me is trading up to some extent – it will take time to see how the investment pays off.’’













1:29pm: How the mighty have fallen! Look where the supposedly world-beating BRIC countries are today: Brazil is mired in protests, China’s growth is slowing, Russia is addicted to self-destructive spy games, and India’s currency is at an all-time low.

Of the four, India has the brightest prospects for growth ahead, so why has the rupee taken such a dip?

Yesterday, the Indian rupee crashed to a record low of 64.13 per US dollar, before India’s central bank took steps to support the beaten-down bond market, in moves that might just help prop up the rupee.

Even though China is growing faster right now, India has many more years of rapid expansion ahead simply because it hasn’t urbanised or adopted new technologies to the same extent.

You’d think foreign investors would be desperate to get in on the ground floor of this long-term boom, but naturally they’re more fickle – and less patient – than that. And since the value of the rupee in global markets depends on their demand as well as its supply, you have to consider both to understand what’s happening.

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1:18pm: Here’s a quick glance around the region, as Japanese shares fall to a seven-week low.

  • Nikkei: -0.8%
  • Shanghai: -0.3%
  • Taiwan: -0.9%
  • South Korea: -1%
  • Singapore: -0.4%
  • New Zealand: +0.9%










1:00pm: Ailing paper merchant PaperlinX has incurred another loss but says its financial performance is improving.

PaperlinX made a net loss of $90.2 million in the 2012-13 financial year, an improvement on a $266.7 million loss in the prior year.

The previous year’s loss included $214 million in losses from asset writedowns, business sales and restructuring costs, while costs from restructuring and asset writedowns in the 2012-13 financial year totalled $51.7 million.‘‘2013 demonstrates that we are delivering our turnaround strategy,’’ PaperlinX chief executive Dave Allen said.

The company shed 600 staff in the year, about 12 per cent of its workforce.

Shares are down 12.9 per cent at 5.2 cents.












12:39pm: Prominent debt collector Mick Gatto and business partner Matt Tomas have staved off the collapse of their crane hire business by the last minute payment of a $67,057 debt.

Brooklyn-based Elite Cranes was facing insolvency over a long-running debt to subcontractor APAC Cranes, which the Supreme Court had ordered must be paid by August 7 or the company would be liquidated.

Mr Gatto and Mr Tomas kept control of their business after the dispute was settled on the court house steps ahead of the scheduled hearing.

The money will go to the creditors of APAC Cranes, which placed into administration in 2011 with debts of more than $1 million. Administrator Philip Newman of PCI Partners confirmed Elite had paid its bill in full and the legal proceeding had been discontinued.

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12:23pm: I don’t know about you guys, but I think there’d be rebellion if this happened in Australia.

Bars in Denmark risk running out of draft beer after a labour dispute caused production to be halted at a brewery operated by Carlsberg.

The brewery, located in the town of Fredericia, produced all of Carlsberg’s draft beer in Denmark, spokesman Jens Bekke said today.

Carlsberg estimates it controls about 70 per cent of the country’s draft beer market.

Workers in a part of the brewery where beer is transferred to kegs had walked out last Wednesday because a new hire wasn’t affiliated to a union that all other employees were, Mr Bekke said. The 130 strikers were part of a total workforce of 800 at the site, he said.

Production of soft drinks is also affected.

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12:08pm:Hanging out for a big fat pay rise? If the economy-wide statistics are any guide, don’t bank on a huge increase right now, writes BusinessDay‘s Clancy Yeates.

Conditions are, of course, different in every workplace, but official figures show wages are now growing at their slowest pace in several years. Economists think that as the labour market weakens further during the next year or so, this could be a taste of things to come.

According to the Bureau of Statistics, wage growth in the year to March was the slowest since the global financial crisis, at 2.9 per cent. Workers at the Holden plant in South Australia have even agreed to a wage freeze in order to keep their jobs, though this reflects specific challenges in the car-manufacturing industry.

It’s a far cry from just a couple of years ago, when employers were complaining about skills shortages pushing up pay packets to unsustainable levels.

Why is the outlook for wages so bleak?

For one, many employers are looking to cut costs at a time of economic weakness. Wages are an obvious place to start.

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11:52am:The Brazilian real has sunk to its lowest level against the US dollar in four years, hurt by market expectations of higher US interest rates.

On Monday, the Brazilian currency closed at 2.4169 to the greenback, trading above the 2.4 mark for the first time since March 3, 2009. It opened on Tuesday at 2.398.

‘‘The dollar will continue on this downward trend,’’ said Luiz Gustavo Pereira, an analyst at Corretora Futura in Sao Paulo.

‘‘There is this situation with the probable hike in US interest rates and all emerging countries will continue to suffer,’’ he added.

The weakening of the real comes as Latin America’s economy is experiencing anemic growth and rising inflation.

And anticipation of tighter US monetary policy from next month is making the dollar more attractive on international markets.

Higher US interest rates would mean a reduction in liquidity injections by the Federal Reserve Board through its monthly purchases of Treasury bonds.













11:36am:The Australian government has sold $800 million of April 21, 2025, Treasury bonds.

The Australian Office of Financial Management (AOFM), which conducts bond auctions on behalf of the government, said the bonds were sold for a weighted average yield of 4.1682 per cent.

The sale attracted bids totalling $1.815 billion, giving a coverage ratio of 2.27.












11:21am: Here are the best and worst performers on the ASX200 so far today:



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11:13am:South Korean exports for the first 20 days of this month rose by a strong 15.6 per cent from a year earlier, customs data showed today, adding to signs of the trade-dependent economy gathering momentum.

South Korea’s overseas shipments between August 1 and 20 stood at $US26.092 billion, data that Korea Customs Service published on its website showed.

Imports for the same 20-day period fell 3.9 percent in annual terms to $US26.114 billion, generating a trade deficit of $US22 million, the data showed.













11:07am: With its bid for gas distributor Envestra stalled, pipeline owner and operator APA Group has more than doubled its net profit, as it benefitted from the earlier acquisition of another pipeline group Hastings Diversified.

In the year to June, APA boosted its net profit to $298.8 million from $130.6 million.

Extraordinary items cut the final profit for the year to $178.7 million from $140.3 million.

Earnings a share rose to 23.1 cents from 21.9 cents following a share issue during the year.

Earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation for the year rose to $768.8 million from $525.8 million.

For the year ahead, it flagged a lower profit at this level of $715-730 million.

It forecast the payout to be maintained at 35.5 cents in the year ahead.













10:55am:Tokyo shares have opened up 0.2 per cent following a mixed showing on Wall Street as investors await the release later of the minutes from the US Federal Reserve’s July meeting.

The Nikkei index at the Tokyo Stock Exchange rose 32.74 points to 13,429.12 in the first minutes of trading.













10:46am: The peak super investment body has expressed concern over companies that exclude the cost of impairments from bonus calculations, saying it distorts long-term corporate performance in favour of higher executive pay. 

The Australian Council of Superannuation Investors, whose members manage $350 billion in assets, said it had issued revised governance guidelines to its members to take into account new expectations of board practices, executive pay and capital raisings. 

The guidelines come as companies release their annual reports for the 2013 financial year, which detail executive salaries and long-term incentives. 

‘‘The use of normalised and adjusted earnings in bonus plans will be in the spotlight this reporting season,’’ ACSI chief executive Ann Byrne said. 

‘‘Of particular concern are companies that exclude costs and impairments from bonus calculations.’’

‘‘An impairment charge should not be excluded from the bonus calculations for the CEO and executive team which acquired the asset that has been impaired.’’













10:38am: By the looks of the comments yesterday and today, real estate seems to be at the tip of everybody’s tongue, or keyboard rather.

So here’s an interesting real estate story out of the US where some foreclosures are working out well for borrowers.

Florida’s five-year deadline to foreclose on a home is ticking on thousands of aging cases state-wide, giving lucky borrowers a shot at a free house and catching banks with muddled files unaware.

The statute is common contract law that says a person has five years to sue on a debt, with the right to collect that money expiring at the end of the time period.

But its application to foreclosures is unsettled. A very specific set of circumstances must be in play for a homeowner to walk away a jackpot winner, and without clear case law or a high court’s ruling, its impact on foreclosures filed between 2007 and 2009 is hazy.

Still, a few prominent judgments in favour of owners, including a multi-million-dollar waterfront mansion in Boca Raton, have presented another surreal twist in Florida’s lengthy foreclosure fiasco.”

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10:24am: BHP’s profit, which came put yesterday after the local market closed, isn’t being received too well, with shares down 1.8 per cent at $35.88, while rival Rio is up 0.2 per cent.

The mining giant’s underlying earnings of $US11.8 billion missed expectations of a $US12.6 billion profit.

Here’s Mal Maiden’s take on the earnings:

BHP and Rio Tinto are Australia’s two mining whales, and they are swimming through similar, slightly chilly water this year as the resources bubble deflates and they focus much more tightly on costs and productivity.

Investors are taking on different risks depending on which whale they ride. Rio is the biggest punt on the iron ore price. BHP is a more evenly weighted bet on a basket of commodities, and a less risky conveyance as a result.

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10:21am: The stock market has opened slightly higher. The benchmark S&P/ASX200 index is up 9.7 points, or 0.2 per cent, to 5087.9, while the broader All Ords has gained 10.4 points, or 0.2 per cent, to 5079.2.

Losses in the materials sector (-0.6%) are being offset by gains in most other sectors, including a 0.4 per cent rise in financials.













10:07am: The dollar has just dived to the day’s low of 90.48 US cents, extending this week’s falls from above 92 US cents on Monday.

Investors are waiting for the US Federal Reserve minutes of its July meeting, which may provide clues on when policy makers plan to slow stimulus that has inflated asset prices around the world.

‘‘If we do see a reiteration that the Fed will start tapering as early as September, I think 90 US cents will be breached on the downside, bringing 88 1/2 into play,’’ says Michael Judge, a trader at OZForex. ‘‘Broader-term weakness in the Aussie is still very much intact.’’













10:02am: No surprises in Suncorp’s 2013 profit, says Morningstar’s David Ellis in a snap analysis:

  • Suncorp Group’s (Suncorp) adjusted cash profit for fiscal 2013 of $596 million is in-line with our expectations and includes the $632 million loss on sale of the non-core bank to Goldman Sachs announced in July. Divisional results and dividends are consistent with the earlier announcement.
  • The standout is the impressive performance from the General Insurance division with profit nearly doubling to AUD 883 million and the 13.1% insurance margin exceeding medium term guidance to “meet or beat” an underlying margin of 12%.
  • Core Bank profits were flat at AUD 289 million and the Life Division disappointed with a significant decline in profits to AUD 60 million from AUD 251 million in 2012.
  • We remain positive on the outlook with higher targeted cost savings and core business profits expected to grow consistently during our forecast period. The sale of the non-core bank is a relief and enables the group to focus on the profitable core businesses.
  • The group is well placed to deliver on key medium term commitments including an insurance margin of at least 12% and return on equity of at least 10% in fiscal 2015.”









9:49am: Someone who’s not yet had enough of earnings season:










9:47am:Higher production and a lower petroleum rent tax helped Woodside Petroleum lift its net profit to $US873 million from $US818 million in the June half.

Revenue totalled $US2.86 billion, up from $US2.80 billion. Earnings a share rose to US106c from US100c, it said.

It also hiked the interim dividend to US83c a share from US65c paid a year earlier.

Production rose a strong 22.5 per cent to 41.9 million  barrels of oil equivalent, it said, reflecting a full half year contribution from the Pluto project.

However the group has revised down its full year output forecast to 85-89 million barrels of oil equivalent from 88-94 forecast earlier.













9:42am: Putting earnings on the sideline for a few minutes, Bank of Japan Governor Haruhiko Kuroda has said he will not hesitate to adjust quantitative easing if downside risks from a planned sales tax or overseas economies increased, according to an interview in the Mainichi newspaper today.

Improvements in personal consumption and investment show that the BOJ’s expanded quantitative easing is heading in the right direction, Kuroda was quoted as saying.

Japan’s economy isn’t likely to slow if the government proceeds with a plan to raise the sales tax, and the government should take firm steps toward fiscal discipline, Kuroda was quoted as saying.













9:31am:Super Retail Group has reported a 23 per cent jump in profit to $102.7 million.

Sales revenue across the group which includes, Ray’s Outdoors, Supercheap Auto and Rebel Sport was $2 billion.

SRG will pay final dividend of 21 cents, fully franked, on October 2.













9:15am:Seek has reported a net profit of $141.1 million for the year to June, excluding one-off gains relating to acquisitions. 

This was up 8 per cent from $130.2 million a year earlier.

Chief executive Andrew Bassat said the result was achieved “despite subdued macro conditions”. 

“The key drivers of this result were strong growth across education (as a division), robust results in Seek international and a solid performance by Seek domestic,” he said. 

The company posted a final dividend of 22 cents per share, up from 17.3 cents a year earlier. This will be paid out on October 16. 













9:10am:The Reject Shop has posted a net profit of $19.5 million, down 10.9 per cent from a year earlier. 

The company said, however, that the results were distorted, due to one-off insurance claims and the cost of new stores. 

“Despite poor consumer sentiment and retail sales trends, we continue to trade well and we have now delivered positive comparable store sales growth in every quarter since re-opening the Ipswich distribution centre in October 2011,” managing director Chris Bryce said. 

The company declared a final dividend of 13 cents per share, to be paid on October 14. 













9:00am:iiNet has reported a 64 per cent rise in its annual net profit, to $60.9 million for the year to June. 

The country’s second largest DSL internet provider said it had benefited from the integration of two acquired businesses, Internode and TransACT, throughout the year. 

This offset “challenging economic conditions”, it said. 

Its total 2013 dividend was up 36 per cent to 19 cents a share, fully franked. 












8:58am: Buffeted by an uneven performance across divisions, building materials group Boral has posted a year to June net profit of $104.4 million, little changed on the net profit of $101.2 million a year earlier.

Revenue rose 6 per cent to $5.3 billion.

Firm earnings from domestic cement and the US were offset by continued weakness in the domerstic building products sector, and a flat performance by its gypsum unit.

Even with the flat profit, the company has decided to lift the final dividend to 6 cents a share from 3.5 cents a share paid previously, giving a steady 11 cent annual payout.













8:55am:Iluka has reported first half a profit of $34.3 million for the since months to the end of June, down from $274.4 million in the previous corresponding period.

Sales revenue for the half was at $381.7 million, down from $662.8 million in the first half of 2012.

Illuka will pay a fully franked dividend of 5 cents on October 2.













8:49am:Asciano has reported a net profit of $340 million for the year to June, up 41.2 per cent from a year earlier. 

The company issued a final dividend 6.25 cents per share.













8:47am:Suncorp has posted a 32 per cent fall in full-year profit in line with its guidance last month.

Net income for the year to June 30, was $491 million compared with $724 million a year earlier, hurt by a loss on the sale of its mostly sour loan portfolio.

Suncorp’s banking unit recorded a loss of $343 million, compared with a profit of $26 million a year earlier.

It will pay a special dividend of 20 cents in addition to a final dividend of 30 cents.

Suncorp has posted a 32 per cent fall in full-year profit in line with its guidance last month.

 

Net income for the year to June 30, was $491 million compared with $724 million a year earlier, hurt by a loss on the sale of its mostly sour loan portfolio.

 

Suncorp’s banking unit recorded a loss of $343 million, compared with a profit of $26 million a year earlier.

 

It will pay a special dividend of 20 cents in addition to a final dividend of 30 cents.













8:45am: Webjet has reported full-year net profit after tax $6.5 million full-year profit, down from $13.6 million in the previous financial year.


















8:23am: Good morning. Welcome to the Markets Live blog for Wednesday.

Contributors: Max Mason, Jens Meyer

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  • You would have wonder about the mind set of anyone who would short shares owned by and associated with older Australians who are such creatures of habit and hate change. Regardless of the economics involved they will always leave their money in CBA and converting to solar just doesn’t enter the thought process, so shorting ORG for that reason doesn’t stack up either!

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    • ding dong 5100…watch me go now….lol

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      • Was watching one of the major news sources financial talking abt bhp and what a sound and in his words Wonderful company it is
        And the result was good and yes there was a bit of raw materials price haggling going on in the world, but so what
        And the stock gets dumped? it is beyond reason
        If anyone knows a way to trade DAX or DOW can they stick their hand up please
        What a brill summer here, picking blackberries yesterday, back in Au after three months on the week end
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        • If Kev wins the big debate tonight there might be another buying opportunity for MMS

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          • Ok all you eggsberts, what will the Fed say tonight?

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            • Well I always get it wrong so will say they will hint at reducing the stimulus from September

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            • Nothing. It’s tomorrow night isn’t it?

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          • Ok. Question for the Spec Investors. Thoughts on ESI and DTE. Looks like something is brewing. Discuss please?

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            August 21, 2013, 2:13PM


            • ESI is on the verge. EGM this Friday. (Bassy has been bigging this one up for ages). Coldry Plant is ready for construction.

              DTE I know a little less about but I do know there are protests at the UK drill site and the press are behind them (apparently, according to HC, a protester superglued themselves to a filing cabinet…errrrrr)

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              heybert

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            • ESI is the golden child, in the next 2-3 months they will release their results.

              Commenter

              tim_r

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            • ESI/ESIO will go 10 X current over next 4/5 months IMO

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              Bassy

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          • rea group is in an exponential price bubble. share price is up over 7x since 2009 and is exposed to property sector.

            in 2013 alone, share price up over 100%

            p/e ratio historical is well over 40.

            Commenter

            nihal

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            August 21, 2013, 2:07PM


            • lets look at the facts
              rea profit/market cap

              2009 – $40m npat approx, market value $650m, p/e approx 16

              2013 (today) $109m npat market value now $4600m p/e 42

              p/e has risen from 16 to an astronomical 42. this share is beyond a bubble. The increase in earnings from 2009 to current is only $109-$40m = $69m.

              The increase in market value is over 3.9billion dollars over the same period in time.

              one of the biggest bubbles i have ever seen in ASX 100(not in the index yet, but market value is so fast growth it is well in the index)

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              nihal

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              August 21, 2013, 2:24PM











            • No it’s not a bubble in my opinion. Bubbles are when prices rise in an unsustainable way with no income to support those high prices over time (like Australia’s housing bubble when many investment properties traded around 50 times earnings (rental yield).

              Just think how valuable the re . com .au website is. It’s likely to dominate re listings in Australia for a long time and is a real cash cow with growth hence the high P/E ratio – highly profitable + strong growth.

              Lots of other online businesses have had great share price growth over a long period of time. My personal favourite eBay for example is up over 500% since 2009.

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              Gordon Akman

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              Broadbeach

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              August 21, 2013, 2:33PM











            • hi. u are entitled to your opinion. but when the market value has gone up 250% in just 12 months($12 to $35), isn’t that a bit exaggerated rise. i do not dispute it is a good company, but just highlighting raw facts and figures. its earnings is not grown 250% in 1 year.

              regarding economy, we all know a lot of the moves are QE driven, and that the underlying debt/fundamental dynamic is very poor.

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              nihal

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    • bubble boy is back! I’ve missed you.

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      heybert

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      Sesame Street

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    • Gordon is correct nihal. I think the internet stocks are a tad on the overvalued side but it does depend on the stock. GA gives good reason why RE is probably valued correctly. Its based on a expanding user base and profit growth.

      Amazon has a PE of well over 100. It announced a profit loss and still its share price went up….investors are (should be) forward looking.

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      heybert

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      Sesame Street

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      August 21, 2013, 3:03PM











  • If you subscribed to my newsletter, you’d know I picked it at .008/.009 ROTFLMFAO

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    Bassy

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    August 21, 2013, 1:14PM




    • The falling Brazilian Real is Gold for BDR, Apologies for a second post on this company but it is very relevant!

      Commenter

      Golden Oldie

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      August 21, 2013, 12:32PM


      • Funny stuff…someone has just lodged an order to sell 999,999 BDR shares at .875…not me that’s for sure!

        Commenter

        Goldden Oldie

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        August 21, 2013, 1:44PM











    • Attn: Bassy

      Can you please explain to me what is going on with FAS? It has traded between $0.016 and $0.078 in the last couple of weeks with hundreds of millions of shares changing hands.

      Commenter

      Gordon Akman

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      Broadbeach

      Date and time

      August 21, 2013, 12:25PM


      • If you subscribed to my newsletter, you’d know I picked it at .008/.009 ROTFLMFAO

        Commenter

        Bassy

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        August 21, 2013, 12:48PM











      • The offtake agreement is good news, but hardly warrants such a continuing rise.. Shares fell yesterday after the response to the ASX share price enquiry where they advised that no further news was due, but low and behold it’s on the rise again today..

        I’m annoyed I didn’t jump on board earlier when Bassy posted it originally, but still happy with my current gains, although I don’t think it’s sustainable without any further good news..

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        xnova

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      • @Bassy oh so you have no clue. You just guess about a list of penny dreadful stocks and some go up and some go down. I knew that already by saving some of your posts/stock picks and monitoring their performance. Carry on as you were.

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        Gordon Akman

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        Broadbeach

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        August 21, 2013, 1:15PM











      • @bassy, Where can one find your newsletter?

        Commenter

        Capt Awesome

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        August 21, 2013, 1:24PM











      • GA, I cant remember all of that clown’s posts. But most of it close lower than the opening price cause he can only call on the pre opening price. and Bassy said SDL was bouncing up at 99 cents.

        Commenter

        got brain

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      • Oh dear…penny dreadful shareholders are lurking around the place. Trading halt on 5/8/13. Watch out.

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        Gordon Gekko

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        August 21, 2013, 1:32PM











      • Bassy, how do subscribe to your newsletter?

        Regardless of what others say, i’ve found your tips pretty awesome, at least for trading high-risk small caps 🙂

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        xnova

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        August 21, 2013, 1:32PM











    • “According to the Bureau of Statistics, wage growth in the year to March was the slowest since the global financial crisis, at 2.9 per cent”

      Proof that we are headed for a Property and Equity boom! Charlie Attkin told me so.!

      Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets-live/markets-live-bhp-weighs-on-asx-20130821-2s9zr.html#ixzz2cZ9CahIA

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      Dj77

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      August 21, 2013, 12:16PM


      • Charlie is trying to flog you something, of course he’s going to say everything is fantastic, and quick get in now before it’s too late, whether he actually follows his own advice is another matter. Hopefully he doesn’t do what some Wall St institutions do, sell you one thing and then bet against you whilst laughing at your stupidity.

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        buysell

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    • Definitely!

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      Linux

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  • Just read some good advice from mitch of act on taking some profits along the way. Would be interested in the various strategies traders use to maximise their profits. Am conservative by nature and sometimes sell too early and miss the cream which is disappointing because I do a lot of research before buying. Have learned to buy a small lot first and add later in recent times. Also starting to take 50% profit and leave the rest to ride along. Any tips or comments would be greatly appreciated!

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    Xenaphon

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    August 21, 2013, 12:05PM


    • I have been reading this blog for three months and mitch of ACT hasn’t posted a single profitable trade. Yet he always has heaps to say about other people’s trades and anything and everything under the sun for that matter. He was part of the “get on the banks he he” brigade during the last three months but the banks have gone down in the last three months not up. Do you have a link to one of mitch of ACT’s trades? This is a public forum yet there is no record of any profitable trades posted from him.

      Commenter

      Come on now

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      Here

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      August 21, 2013, 12:19PM











    • Google Fibonacci Pivot points

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      Bassy

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      August 21, 2013, 12:21PM











    • Simple rule of share trading, “No matter when you sell or buy you could always have done better”. Get used to it.

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      mitch of ACT

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      August 21, 2013, 12:23PM











    • Brokerage will kill that strategy.

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      JohnBB

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    • @Come on now, I don’t like to boast about my profits but I do try to share some of my trading experience (over 30 years) for others to use. If you have been reading this blog for 3 months you would see that I have said plenty about the type of trades that I make. Perhaps not specific details because I don’t want to frighten or alert the market.

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      mitch of ACT

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    • Cheers for that Bassy, will have a look tonight!

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      Xenaphon

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      August 21, 2013, 12:37PM











    • “Perhaps not specific details because I don’t want to frighten or alert the market.”

      LMAO!

      Commenter

      Blog

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      Monitoring Services

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      August 21, 2013, 12:53PM











    • To the OP while I’m investing for income as I’d like to retire in about 5 years. So yield and franked dividends is what I’m after. With selling, taking profits I used to sell “penny dreadfuls” as those rose so what I had left holding wise had no real cost. Some saying that often work is “the trend is your friend”, “let profits run”. buy on rumour, sell on fact. Or is it the other way around. Another saying is “your first lost is often your best loss” meaning if a share is trending downwards you are better off selling out early and taking a small loss, rather than selling later and taking a bigger one. I’ve been known to increase holdings averaging up. IE buying up as the share price increases. Not a big fan of averaging down. Good luck

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      MelbMan

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    • Not with the $ amount of my trades JohnBB!

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      Xenaphon

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    • Tongue firmly in cheek, but I trade not only on my own account but for other super funds that I manage. If I decided to make a trade on account of all of the funds it could be sizeable. If I said on here that, for example, I have just sold 100,000 BDR because I think they have peaked what would happen to all of the other followers of BDR.

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      mitch of ACT

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    • “If I said on here that, for example, I have just sold 100,000 BDR because I think they have peaked what would happen to all of the other followers of BDR.”

      BDR shares would probably spike higher just like bank shares have gone lower while you have been saying you have been a buyer at peak prices the last few months lol

      Commenter

      Pseudonym City

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      Markets Live

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      August 21, 2013, 2:09PM











    • Nothing mitch – I doubt entirely that you trade other peoples self managed funds. That would mean you have a financial license, and as such, your posts here are in fact licensed advice? Should someone now wish to take you to court for bad advice… well we all know where that is heading. You can only give ‘opinions’ on this forum given your now confirmed position. As for a single person on SMH forums having any sway over a single stock price… zero. Am I wrong of do I have the self managed fund laws and regulations wrong?

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      Liberator

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      SEQLD

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      August 21, 2013, 2:13PM











    • @Pseudonym City That is something I have to correct. I have not bought (apart from re-invested dividends), nor advocated anyone buying bank shares in recent months. You are reading what others have said and taking it as gospel. Check your facts.

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      mitch of ACT

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  • Sold my Bhp put, happy man

    Commenter

    Wil Feng

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    Melb

    Date and time

    August 21, 2013, 11:57AM


    • Oh yeah put options. I don’t know a lot about them. But I do know they are the right, but not the obligation, to sell a stock at a price at a future date (as opposed to a call option which is to buy). Just wondering about those, do you acutally “sell” them or do you exercise them?

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      Gordon Gekko

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  • Hi guys, is PDN and CNX a good buy at these prices? Looks yummy.

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    samj88

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    August 21, 2013, 11:37AM


    • Been long on PDN and ERA for 18 months.
      Long – as in very long – is within my super.

      I expect these to steady and just watch the damage owning them is doing to my future wealth plans, however, I am still optimistic.

      The World will always want what these guys produce, the future is bright, the future glows Orange … literally as far as Fukushima goes.

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      Investor with natural doubts

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      Vic

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      August 21, 2013, 11:44AM











    • They both look to have bottomed FWIW,

      so YES

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      Bassy

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      August 21, 2013, 11:52AM











    • ESI/ESIO trend has changed last few sssions,

      EGM Friday, get excited

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      Bassy

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      August 21, 2013, 11:55AM











    • Investor with natural doubts, check out AGS, you might be surprised

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      Bassy

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      August 21, 2013, 11:59AM











    • Yes, one with investments in PDN should consider a very very long timeframe…sell it just before the Sun expands to a Red giant and the Liberals will tell the truth…a long long way away.

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      Realist

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      Sydney

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      August 21, 2013, 11:59AM











    • “one with investments in PDN should consider a very very long timeframe…”

      A bit like someone who bought investment property in Coomera around 2006? LMAO!

      Commenter

      Gordon Akman

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      Broadbeach

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      August 21, 2013, 12:21PM











    • Coomera HAHA! Debt Belt – I mean Green Belt!!! PDN will rise again – probably a solid 2-3 years before they go anyway good. China has a host of reactors coming online and eventually – Coal will fade and U will become popular again.

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      Liberator

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      SEQLD

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  • 50% overpriced. ASX should be 3400. hmmmm is someone off their meds.

    Commenter

    Hank

    Date and time

    August 21, 2013, 11:26AM


    • I guess other people are worse than me at calculations…50% off today’s figures should be around 2500; how did you get 3400 points for the ASX after a 50% drop?… time for another well deserved latte.

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      Realist

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    • 3400 x 1.5 = 5100

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      Jimmy

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    • Well done Jimmy, but you’ve got the base wrong. If you have $100 in your pocket, lose 50%, how much do you now have? For God’s sake, I can’t get another latte…ok, one more.

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      Realist

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    • Sorry partner, l gave you the benefit of the doubt. What are you doing here. Try having a banana with your latte.

      Commenter

      Hank

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      August 21, 2013, 12:23PM








    • Hank…what am I doing here? I trade the markets but it seems I’ve diverted today to teaching basic maths; banana with latte? you might like it, but I can’t see myself doing it.

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      Realist

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      Sydney

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    • As I understand it overvalue most commonly refers to the % of unwarranted value over the true value, not the % loss required to return to true value.

      Really, you are just arguing over a pointless definition. But I guess it make a change from everyone whinging about property.

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      Jimmy

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  • I bought CBA shares for $74 in May how much money have I made so far?

    Commenter

    Bright Eyed

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    Bushy Tailed

    Date and time

    August 21, 2013, 11:25AM


    • Don’t worry in 20 years you can boast about how you paid $74 for CBA when they are over $1,000 per share 🙂
      (unfortunately with hyper inflation that may only be the current equivalent of $5)

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      buysell

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    • If your investment horizon was 3 months then not great, although you did get a $2 fully franked dividend. If it’s 10 years, then I’ll send you a T-Mail* and let you know then GA.

      (*Thought Mail – its how we’ll be communicating in the future)

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      heybert

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      Sesame Street

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      August 21, 2013, 12:11PM











    • @buysell did I tell you about the time I holidayed on the Gold Coast in 1974 and camp site fees were $1.50 a night and when you bought a dollar’s worth of chips they emptied whole sacks of potatoes into the deep fryer?

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      Geeza

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      Story Time

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      August 21, 2013, 12:30PM











    • paid dividend: 2.00 + 100%franks:0.857 = full dividend of $2.857 less acquisition cost:74 less buy brokerage of 0.1%:0.074cents plus current market value:70.95 less sell brokerage 0.1%: 0.07095 = loss (0.33795 )cents p/share. IF price holds at current price, then the next dividend will put you back in the black. IF. Note there is separation between dividends and capital gains/losses for tax purposes.

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      Gordon Gekko

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  • I have just done some quick calculations for future stock investments and came up with a rather strange answer. All stocks seem to be way over-priced and my calculations reveal that they all need to drop to a more realistic level around 50-60% down. Am I doing something wrong, is my calculator playing up? Tried another one, same thing…sorry, won’t buy anything yet…time for a well deserved latte.

    Commenter

    Realist

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    Sydney

    Date and time

    August 21, 2013, 11:07AM


    • Is it really realistic to realise all sectors of the economy should be placed in the same mindset. I will keep up with my gold play and my healthcare stocks that just like ageing Australia slowly grow upwards………….

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      Calia

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    • Inclined to agree. My charts of the AllOrds for the past 4 years shows a distinct drop approaching the end of August for each year as the major players go ex-dividend. If that drop occurred in each of the last 4 years there is no reason to suppose that it won’t happen this year as well. I’m sitting on my hands as well just in case I get tempted to hit the “BUY” button. I would only buy where a company, that has a history of paying a good dividend, has its price reduced by a market-wide fall. The charts do show a consistent, except for 11/12, pick up in September. However this year we have the added complications for September of the election and tapering to consider.

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      mitch of ACT

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    • Calia…very wise indeed to go for the health sector taking the opportunity of an ageing population…I myself am trying to think of a way to profit from a huge wave of dying people in the near future…can we make energy out of them somehow?

      Commenter

      Realist

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  • Anyone else on BDR?

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    Golden Oldie

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    August 21, 2013, 11:06AM


    • No missed it. Good call though Goldie! I am long on ORG which is doing ok!

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      Nalla

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    • Yup, bought in at .78c, here’s hoping the run continues.

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      xnova

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    • If you are sitting on a nice profit from BDR, consider taking some, before the market takes it back. The sellers are moving in.

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      mitch of ACT

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  • IIN and SEK- Great results, high buy volume, low sell volume, upward trend….stock price? DOWN. This market doesn’t know what it’s doing. It’s far too influenced by overseas forces.

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    cubic

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    August 21, 2013, 10:26AM


    • “Buy on the rumour, sell on the fact”. Prices are pushed up, or down, by certain players in order to drag in those who trade with the trend (sheep). When the time is right the trap is sprung and the sheep are left floundering.

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      mitch of ACT

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    • Just wait until FED announce tapering and set a date. I will be hammering the best short of my life.

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      Liberator

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    • Which platform/tool do you use to short the stocks in ASX?

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      Essen

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      August 21, 2013, 11:17AM











    • @Liberator the Great! Me too!

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      Gordon Gekko

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    • There are a few. You can look at IG, IB, CMC etc. They all offer something different and you need to do some research first.

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      Liberator

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      SEQLD

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      August 21, 2013, 11:38AM











  • Tony Abbott will partially fund parental leave scheme with $1.6 billion taken from franking credits. Discuss!

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    BTFD

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    August 21, 2013, 9:52AM


    • Good. Encouraging people with real jobs and prospects. In lieu of, further funding delinquent welfare bludgers… discuss?

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      Liberator

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      SEQLD

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      August 21, 2013, 10:21AM











    • Discuss…it’s disgusting.

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      Verbatim

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    • Liberal party has lost my vote. This sneaky Hockey/Abbott plan to rob investors with another “baby bonus scheme” stinks. Its only to prop up an overpriced housing market anyway. What else are they hiding?

      Commenter

      gasp

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    • If it’s a workplace entitlement then it should be paid at employment rates by the employer.

      If it’s welfare it should be paid by the government at a set rate for all.

      The current system is more than reasonable. Minimum wage for all with the employer able to to up if they want to. It is just a vote buying exercise at the expense of investors.

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      Ivan

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    • PPL will go nowhere. Big business and State govt’s will kill it. This is Tony Abbott’s “baby” and he seems to be the only one who likes it. Most large companies have their own PPL schemes in order to keep the highly paid and effective women that they have on board. The Greens are the only other party that support schemes like this and that’s a sure-fire indication that it’s impractical and off with the fairies.

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      mitch of ACT

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      August 21, 2013, 10:39AM











    • Yep. I will not be voting LNP because of this disgraceful policy. Have politicians not worked out, the electorate, overall wants LESS WELFARE and more responsible sustainable government? How do we end up with this BS?

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      JohnBB

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      August 21, 2013, 10:48AM











  • NEGATIVE GEARING…. Hs been a wonderful instrument for me to accrue 12 properties, which at e all now owned outright thanks to investor encouragement. Otherwise there would be far less rental properties available to those who have to / prefer to rent.
    With current status, I will over the next six months purchase another 3-4 properties enabling further negative gearing and avoid the otherwise large tax bill. If this tax tool was not available I would make no further purchases, hence leaving a tighter rental market.

    Commenter

    Gary

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    August 21, 2013, 9:26AM


    • cool story baby boomer, you’ll need to liquidate them to pay for nursing home 😉

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      worried33

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    • Unless you put up new houses you haven’t added to the supply at all. You are kidding yourself.

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      Jimmy

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    • So are you rich or not? Depends on whether your boasting at a dinner party about your investment properties or putting your hand out for welfare at tax time from the ATO.

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      Negative gearing means your finances are bad

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    • Solution is very simple. Make NG applicable only if property is bought new of the plan. Encourage construction , stimulate economy and make existing dwellings less attractive to investors. However as all other sensible ideas it will be ignored by which ever govt is in power due to pressure from inv. industry. Unless building and construction sector gets behind it as they would be major benefactors.

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      Dj77

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    • Always a joy to see a man pleasuring himself in public. So Gary, how many of your properties were existing stock? What have you really created?. Please stop stroking yourself for a few seconds and reply.

      Commenter

      wildlife photographer of the year

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    • Gary, do I sense some sarcasm in your comment? I personally know (knew) of a person who had around sixty to seventy properties to his name, mostly rented out. I must admit it’s going back a few years and now he’s dead….enjoying his properties & rent while decomposing peacefully. “…Yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes” James 4:14

      Commenter

      The Prophet

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      Sydney

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    • Good god ! Your argument regarding the rental market and the wonders you are doing for renters is, at best, laughable.

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      The Not-So-Magic Roundabout

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      August 21, 2013, 9:59AM











    • “I would make no further purchases, hence leaving a tighter rental market.”

      This seems totally illogical to me. Those houses will still exist regardless of whether or not you choose to buy them.

      Therefore, they will still be there for people (owner-occupiers or renters) to live in. Your choice to buy or not has no effect on available housing stock.

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      Dr Kiwi

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    • without negative gearing, first home buyers would be able to afford to buy a home instead of being forced to rent. so your logic is flawed, and also you’re contributing to the lack of income tax revenue available for investment in roads and infrastructure. however you are keeping the banks share prices high. so theres a positive there.

      Commenter

      go cats 23

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      August 21, 2013, 10:08AM











    • Wildlife….I love your work. You hit the nail on the head.

      Residential investment misappropriates resources from productive capacity. Much like the online public displays of self pleasuring by Gary…

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      Blower

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      August 21, 2013, 10:20AM











    • Gary, please know that Australia thanks you. In particular thanks from the countless tradies, Insurance companies, civil agent debt servers, real estate offices, local councils, water utility companies and above all banks. They love the money you pay them all the time to keep these flats, units and fibro shacks you own. Watch out Gary. Times are changing and why wouldn’t you liquidate many now and invest other ways.

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      Calia

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      August 21, 2013, 10:24AM











    • @Dj77, smartest thing I’ve read on these boards. Lets start a political party?

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      worried33

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      August 21, 2013, 10:30AM











    • @Gary – I just think you are a person with a warped sense of humor that just couldn’t resist stirring up the ant nest after yesterday’s discussions.

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      Pete of ACT

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      August 21, 2013, 10:41AM











    • Well done Gary. I’d like to ask some questions because I want to learn from you, and perhaps teach other aspiring bloggers here. Are you aware of GCT implications? Tell us what your taxable income from these properties last financial year FY13? What tax did you pay? What rebates did you qualify for? What business structure do you use? Company? Trust? Partnership? Are you single or married/defacto?

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      Gordon Gekko

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      August 21, 2013, 11:03AM











    • @Pete of ACT …… at last we have someone who gets it. Well done !

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      Gary

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      August 21, 2013, 11:04AM











    • @The Prophet. If this person you knew did not own those properties someone else would. If those properties did not exist to be rented out, people would end up living on the streets, and next there’ll be a revolution, and the Church, with its billions in cash and property behind them, would be sacked and looted!

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      Gordon Gekko

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      August 21, 2013, 11:22AM








    • Not possible. ‘Savvy’ mum and dad investors have minimum 50 investment properties when they sip their soy lattes at the weekend BBQ

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      panda

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      perth

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      August 21, 2013, 11:54AM











    • Just goes to show that some people have no sense of shame. If I owned that many rental properties I would keep very quiet about it. Everybody immediately thinks “slum landlord”. Heaven help if the marriage breaks down. The ex-wife will want her share, in cash, immediately. I wouldn’t relish having to dump that many properties onto the market all in one go.
      Haven’t you heard of diversification of investments.

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      mitch of ACT

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      August 21, 2013, 11:59AM











    • my brother in NZ does that but he never used the tax breaks, which they have now stopped
      His reasoning was the estate would really cop it come his death.
      It is a pity we cant paste personal links here
      I just began design of a new house, two levels solid granite with round wings
      I should be able to bring in men from Spain Portugal as when I advertise here, there will be nobody who has worked in stone or laid a slate coned roof
      Au houses, the 50 year shacks for a mill,
      I want people to look at the house Stubilt in 400 years time and say wow! I do not want a house that the first two pigs can huff and puff down
      On the site I have is a 20 yr house that shakes end to end when a door slams I derive no pleasure from living in the house, the site is worth 800k So if I put up this house for 400k with importeed granite from china and slate from Canada, just maye I will be sitting on a 3 mill property.
      On the other hand the red tape may kill the project stone dead, no pun intended

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      stuarth44

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      france

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      August 21, 2013, 3:01PM











  • Suncorp – classic result of investing heavily in QLD!!! Even they want out of the housing market… writing on the walls. CBA – take note.

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    Liberator

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    SEQLD

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    August 21, 2013, 9:06AM




    • There is a lot of pain right now with greedy landlords in QLD unable to attract the rent prices they think they ‘deserve’. Negative gearing at it’s very finest! Massive homes renting for under $600 a week. Repayments on thoese $900K McMansions must suck! Green belt also one of the highest default rates in Australia. Getting better by the day!!!

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      Liberator

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      SEQLD

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      August 21, 2013, 9:04AM


      • There are homes that sold for several million dollars on Sovereign Islands that have been listed for rent recently for between $1100 and $1500 a week. There’s a lot of tragedy out there…

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        Gordon Akman

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        August 21, 2013, 9:56AM











      • Did you see the big house northern side 3x blocks of land – $12M spent and not finished. Under hammer (bank said sell) it got $5M OUCH!! BIG LOSS THERE!!!

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        Liberator

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        SEQLD

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        August 21, 2013, 10:18AM











      • Yes Lib. It was auctioned a few weeks ago. The land was bought for $9.44 million in 2005 and $12 million was spent so far building the mansion (not anywhere close to completion). It sold at auction in 2013 for $5.3 million. I guess house prices don’t “only go up” and “double every 5-7 years” after all.

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        Gordon Akman

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        Broadbeach

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        August 21, 2013, 10:46AM











      • Ya, exactly. A $12m mansion built in a dive is great until you drive outside the gates.

        Location, location, location.

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        heybert

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        Sesame Street

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        August 21, 2013, 11:09AM











      • But the big bridge separates the bad – right? I heard that big home north side was an $18M loss – so that makes sense. Funny enough, most of these homes are worth less than building cost, and by a cracking margin!

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        Liberator

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        SEQLD

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        August 21, 2013, 11:33AM











      • @Lib/Gordon A – on a serious note, the area around Sovereign Island isn’t a bad area is it (ignoring the cost of houses)? When I visit (not a property I own :-)) the area looks ok. Cheers Pete

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        Pete of ACT

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        August 21, 2013, 12:43PM











      • @Lib Sovereign Islands is actually a beautiful place to live. The best properties are the ones facing the Broadwater with Pacific ocean and Gold Coast city views (like the one that recently sold for $5 mil). Also, Sanctuary Cove is another stunning area and the pick of those homes are on the river. Because it’s such a great place to live that’s why prices get so far ahead of themselves during a boom which causes a bubble then the inevitable pain when the bubble bursts. If you are an owner occupier who bought/buy at the right price in that area you can have a fantastic lifestyle all year round.

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        Gordon Akman

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        Broadbeach

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        August 21, 2013, 12:44PM











      • GA – I know the area well – I built a home or two there. In my opinion, the first good tidal surge will end the prestige of the whole area!

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        Liberator

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        SEQLD

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        August 21, 2013, 2:21PM











    • Good morning all.

      Negative gearing is brilliant. Discuss.

      (joke)

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      heybert

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      Sesame Street

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      August 21, 2013, 8:43AM


      • I’m only here to see what Fairfax stories tickle Allan’s fancy today.

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        Jimmy

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    • As long as they are about property prices tumbling by 50% Jimmy. I can’t read about it enough.

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      heybert

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      Sesame Street

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      August 21, 2013, 9:16AM













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